Michael McCain guesses what the finale of ‘Saul’s Better Call’ means – because he hasn’t been arrested yet – Variety

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Chuck McGill is lovingly brought back to life in the final series of “Better Call Saul” but Michael McCainwho is reprising his role as a late attorney in a flashback sequence, isn’t quite sure what that all means — because he’s still a few episodes late on the AMC series.

In Two Flashbacks During the Finale, Jimmy (Bob Odenkirk) asks Mike (Jonathan Banks) and Walter White (Bryan Cranston) where they would go if they had a time machine. Mike Wall both have deep remorse — taking a bribe and leaving Gray Matter Technologies, respectively — but Jamie refrains from taking very personal action. It wasn’t until after the climax courtroom scene – where Jimmy takes a shot at redemption by confessing his crimes and taking a much longer prison sentence in order to clear Kim’s (Rhea Seehorn) name – that we travel back in time to have a conversation between he and Chuck, who has committed suicide At the end of the third season, where Jimmy delivers groceries and fresh newspapers to his older brother. (Note how director Peter Gould predicted Chuck’s memories by focusing on the loud courtroom exit sign, referring to the season three song “Deception.”)

While Chuck doesn’t ask the same question Jimmy would of Mike and Walt, he does give his younger brother some wise advice: “If you don’t like where you’re headed, there’s no shame in going back and changing your course.” After Jimmy exits, it is revealed that Chuck is reading H.G. Wells’ movie “The Time Machine.”

Of course, McCain remembers filming this pivotal final scene, but he has no idea how the show or his imaginary brother Jimmy will end. In an accurate and spoiler-free interview with diverseMcKean broke his return to “Better Call Saul” and took a stab at the importance of “The Time Machine.”

How much have you watched from Season 6 of “Better Call Saul”?

My wife and I watched episode 8, so we haven’t watched the last five. The last episode we saw was a monster episode, with the confrontation between Gus [Giancarlo Esposito] WALLO [Tony Dalton]. That’s a very good TV out there.

When did you know you would come back to the end?

At the start of last season, they told me they needed me for another scene in the final episode, and I said, “Wow.” And I said, “Don’t tell me anything Chuck doesn’t know,” and they said, Well. I only read my scene, and didn’t read anything else, because I’m a fan of the show. And I want to see the story hatch properly. I’m so glad I didn’t know anything was going on, and people were too nice not to tell me what was going on. And I try not to read on Twitter anything that tells me more than I need to know.

It must be hard for you to avoid spoilers. What guarantees do you have in place? I imagine Twitter is a minefield.

There is a way you can read and scan at the same time, so I know what to skip. People say so amazing and amazing things about the show that I can absorb the positivity without going into anything else they imply. Plus, the fact that Chuck wouldn’t know any of these things makes it kind of decent that I don’t know. It is working fine.

After not watching the whole episode, what do you think about the importance of the Time Machine?

I think the reason Chuck is in the episode is to tell everyone that you can’t really go back in time. So you have to make your decisions right now. And back to the man who didn’t make the right choices, the man who allowed so many long-running problems to set his life on fire, literally and figuratively. Chuck might, at that point, have peeked into the future, if you put it right. Of course, the Time Machine is about a poorly shaped future.

Maybe it’s about how the future is designed for you as much as you can. Don’t blow it up. Now, that’s what a man said [Chuck] Which is kind of starting to blow his future. He just didn’t know it. He’s been putting himself in trouble because of his different feelings, jealousy, and his inability to win over people the way Jimmy does. [Chuck watches Jimmy] Do what lawyers do, but do it honestly and rudely and get away with it because it’s charming and a little slippery. Chuck, who sticks to the rules, was the guy who would wonder, “If I’m doing it right, why am I so freaked out?” The past is the past, but it is still with you. What you do with yourself and who you are when you revisit the past can be of some help. I think on a much shorter scale, that’s what Jimmy does and feels in these moments, when he thinks about time gone by.

If Chuck had a time machine, where do you think he’d go? Do you think Chuck has any regrets?

Well, obviously, but we have to take his mental illness into account. Chuck may have had a version of sanity, but something won out…something it probably shouldn’t be. There is nothing more present than the moment of your death. If Chuck could have a time machine, if he could go back and convince his parents that Jimmy needs a little more toughness in his life, that Jimmy needs to not be rescued from his responsibilities, that Jimmy needs to correct him and get his shit done. Together… that was worth another try. But listen, Chuck was out of law school by the time Jimmy was 18, and pretty much everything was left in the dust. If there was a way to do the right thing, he probably wouldn’t have thought of it. So I really don’t know.

What do you think about the fate of Howard (Patrick Fabian) in Episode 7?

Fabulous. Zapper. Again, I had to be very careful not to spoil anything, and my wife and I watched it with our jaws on the floor. First of all, Patrick Fabian is a great actor. And it was as if his personality became the focus of a lot and then of course, he flew off the face of the earth. It was just devastating. We have invested a lot in this guy, even if our assessment of him isn’t 100% favorable as a human being. There was a lot in his relationship with his wife and his little advice on how to get the fizz out of a soda can… All of these things, all of these little details, which is what makes people. People aren’t the only ones who broaden.

And he certainly didn’t need to be a victim. He was a redeemable person, even he wasn’t. It is revealed that he is two-faced, extremely destructive and conceited. These are all human failures. When I became a victim it was devastating, but it was like, life is like that. Life is the man who enters at the wrong moment, you know?

Even Beyond the Grave, Chuck plays an important role in that episode, as his image looms over the Mediation Room. What did you do from it?

I thought it was a good theatre. It’s not like Big Brother Watching, but it’s kind of like surrogate dad watching. I got this feeling from that relationship [between Howard and Chuck].

Going by this latest set of episodes, what are your hopes for Jimmy?

I am that man who will read a mystery novel and will never guess who it is. I’m like the stupid guy standing next to the detective, and that’s how I make myself known.

Now that the show is over, what legacy do you think “Better Call Saul” will have?

We hope that people will do their best to do seriously good writing in TV series. My wife and I often note that we love any story where we make an early decision about someone and either make it explode or swell into something beautiful. I remember feeling this way in “Say Anything” with John Mahoney, who plays Skye’s father. We love this guy so we don’t. And we don’t expect that to happen, it’s just good writing, and that’s the key. The only important thing is that people want to see what happens. You don’t have to like the people you watch. Your interests in rooting don’t have to be absolute—in fact, it’s best to pull the rug out from under you.

Going back to watching one last scene, how do you think about Chuck and Jamie’s relationship and your time on the show in general?

Chuck and Jimmy’s relationship was very complicated. You grew up super fast, Peter [Gould]”Vince” [Gilligan] and Tom [Schnauz] He always said a lot of the things Bob did [Odenkirk] And it inspired them where the story would go. I’m kind of proud of that. Creating a relationship with that much complexity and making it highly applicable to the rest of the show was something Bob and I discovered as we went. [“Better Call Saul”] It’s also one of those shows where no one has to say, “Hey, my character wouldn’t say that.” The writers were so strong about where they were headed, and so secure about it that if an idea came from the group, it would be given a chance. It’s a perfect working condition, plus the fact that everyone is so cute, smart, and fun. This is the kind of job I would wish for anyone.


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